Sunday, June 10, 2007

SagarSays ShutUp (1:47:03 AM): how else could you develop a theory of it all?
SagarSays ShutUp (1:47:07 AM): and is a theory necessary?
SagarSays ShutUp (1:47:21 AM): i'm skeptical about a lot of the applications of syn bio
JataVincitOmnia (1:49:55 AM): a theory is necessary in general for the obvious necessity of a framework; once you have some data, where does it fit? and if by skeptical of synbio's applications, you mean, don't think they will be that catalyzing and exciting, you're probably right. synthetic biology will be like synthetic chemistry; interesting to those in the field, revolutionary to anyone familiar with the fundamental concepts, but will eventually be as boring, commonplace, and taken for granted as plastics are in our everyday lives.
SagarSays ShutUp (1:51:01 AM): by skeptical i also mean that i don't think most of the applications will work
SagarSays ShutUp (1:51:08 AM): because we don't really understand the systems we work with
SagarSays ShutUp (1:51:13 AM): we put a lot of effort into engineering systems
SagarSays ShutUp (1:51:20 AM): we put a lot of effort into characterizing systems
SagarSays ShutUp (1:51:39 AM): but we don't put a lot of effort into developing a deep foundational understanding of how and why our system works
JataVincitOmnia (1:52:56 AM): ah, gotcha. yeah, thats probably the problem with modern science, aggravated by pressure to publish, desire for grants, fame, etc., and the fact that most scientists are egotistical bastards who dont actually care
SagarSays ShutUp (1:54:20 AM): i think publish/perish promotes run of the mill science
JataVincitOmnia (1:54:58 AM): yes it does
JataVincitOmnia (1:55:05 AM): and i hate it
SagarSays ShutUp (1:55:13 AM): what i don't get is
SagarSays ShutUp (1:55:16 AM): if all the scientists
SagarSays ShutUp (1:55:20 AM): run the damn academia
SagarSays ShutUp (1:55:26 AM): and they must all think this as well
SagarSays ShutUp (1:55:31 AM): then why don't they change it?
SagarSays ShutUp (1:56:02 AM): i guess
SagarSays ShutUp (1:56:04 AM): many of them
SagarSays ShutUp (1:56:11 AM): enjoy doing run of the mill science

The scary thing is, that's probably true...

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